This trail starts off as an easy hike alongside Lynn Creek, before a challenging creek crossing (could be impossible in higher water) leads to a fairly well marked route through the Hanes Valley. Watch out for bears in this lush valley before scrambling up the steep scree/snow covered approach to Crown Pass. Even in July there was a lot of snow on the pass and on the traverse past Goat Mt., Little Goat Mt, and then over Dam Mt, so the trail was at times hard to follow. After taking in the spectacular 360 degree views, finish up by hiking down Dam Mt. to Grouse Mt. resort, and then down the Grouse Grind. Flat spots for camping on this trail are few and far between, so if you find a good spot, stick with it. Could be done as a challenging day hike.
Once you get to the trail to Little Goat Mtn it's downhill to the Grouse Sky Ride. $5 to get down to the bottom - it's worth it - you'll be tired!
Directions from Vancouver:
From Highway 1, take the Lynn Valley Road exit in North Vancouver. Good carparking at the park headquarters.
The #228 bus (from Lonsdale Quay)stops at the entrance to the Lynn Headwaters Park (end of Lynn Valley Road). It's about a 1km walk to the start of the trails.
At the other end the #236 goes back down to the Quay, or take the #232 to Phibbs Exchange.
Start anywhere along Lynn Creek in North Vancouver, and walk upstream along the creek , eventually following the Lynn Loop trail towards Hanes Valley, passing Norvan Falls.
Since the trail is not a loop, bussing or shuttling is necessary. Busses leave from Lonsdale Quay to Lynn Canyon and Grouse Mt regularly.
OR, an alternate description ...
Here is another posting of Hanes from trailpeak user "hikingRookie" that makes sense as an addition to this description:
Some have described this hike by starting out with a Grouse Mountain Skyride and coming out via the Cedar Mill Trail. It can be done both ways, but we chose a reward that held "the carrot before our noses" to keep us excited.
We parked in the lot and started from the the Cedar Mill Trail. The gravelly trail is pleasant and easy enough. At the debris chute we went left and follow the Lynn Valley Trail till you arrive at the Norvan Creek bridge. You've traveled about 7km on a pretty basic and leisurely trail.
20 minutes longer and you will arrive at the Lynn Valley / Hanes Valley trail junction, and another half hour will get you closer to log walks and boulder jumps enabling you to cross Lynn Creek.
Another 2km, you'll arrive at a clearing with a signpost and a map. Go left of this post to a "sweet spot" to snack a lunch, take in the scenery, and re-fuel yourself for the rock-field (follow the orange trail markers) that will take you up around 500 m through Crown Pass. Nearing the top, you'll reach some greenery, and travel about 0.5 km to a trail north of the fall-line. Climb up over Little Goat Mountain and go left on the main trail on the north side of Dam Mountain. Traverse around its east side hiking south and keeping left at forks. Yellow trail markers will keep you on track.
You've gone somewhere around 18 - 20 km once you've followed the signposts leading you up steep rockfaces (some with chains anchored into rock to help you ascend), and we took the Skyride down. But first, we celebrated with a beer and nachos, after we changed into other clothes (we got drenched with showers, but arrived with grins, nonetheless).
It took us 8.5 hours (including the "sweet spot picnic", but excluding the celebration before the Skyride)
Bring lots of water, a light lunch, and a good attitudeÂ…rise to the challenge, it's a fun one!
Greater Vancouver Regional District's Seymour Demonstration Forest Exit Highway 1 atthe Capilano College exit [Exit 19]drive north on Lillooet Rd, proceed through the cemetary
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Posted By: Chris.aleksandr
- Sat Dec 28 22:48:13 EST 2013
QuestionIs it practical to turn back before getting to the difficult assent after Hanes valley? Idea would be to start at the Lynn headwaters and turn back after about 10 km. yes you would need to cross the creek twice. But would this potentially be less difficult and shorter than completing the full trail to grouse mtn? Yes I know you would miss the views. ANSWERS are in this forum: Hanes valley route. "Shorter" route, turn back before climb mountain?
Posted By: stvicbc
- Tue Sep 06 17:06:09 EDT 2011
CommentJust completed this hike on September 3, 2011 from Rice Lake to Grouse Mountain tram. It took a total of 6.5 hours to complete with mostly easy hiking until reaching the helicopter pad at the bottom of the rock scree. From there onwards it was tough going. The rock scree near the top was the worst for me, but for the peeps hiking with me it was the "false" summit at the top of the scree and just what felt like hours more of climbing until on the top of Dam Mountain. I have to admit, the views of the valley, Crown Mountain and the other mountains through out this entire hike made it worth it. There was still snowy patches up top, but many people had made it dirty on their hike to Crown Mountain so it was easy to cross. We found the trail markings fantastic through out the hike until we got up onto Goat and Dam Mountains, from there we guessed our way down into Grouse to where we finished with beer and fries! Do try this hike, its fantastic!
Posted By: matty mcd
- Thu Sep 16 18:17:08 EDT 2010
UpsideJust did this hike on Sept 13th. Despite warnings below, finding way up boulder field was much easier than anticipated due to lots of orange tape markers (thank you to the installers!). Hanes Valley is relatively close to the city yet you feel miles away. Even on a light rain/drizzly day, the views as you climb up the valley are beautiful.
Downside<BR>Crossing Lynn Creek can be a challenge. There is a large downed tree lying across the river but it's a solid 10 foot drop to the river and rocks below. Considering it was raining which made the log ubber slippery, we opted to remove our boots and wade across about 50m down stream. This would obviously not be advisable during heavy run-off.<BR><BR>Other downside is ending up at Grouse (depending on how you feel about the place). Considering they just doubled the price of downloading the gondola... but a grizzly beer at the end of a long hike was delicious.
CommentWorth mentioning is the change in difficulty as this hike progresses. Lynn Headwaters to Norvan Falls is a little more than a walk in the park and took us under 2 hours. From there, it gets a little harder as you begin to gain more elevation. From the heli-pad at the bottom of Hanes' boulder field, it's a steep scramble for about 800m. Gaining the saddle on the ridge is somewhat anti-climactic as you soon discover Dam mountain is another 300m hike up, -sort of like a false summit feeling.
Posted By: lindap
- Sun Jul 18 22:40:08 EDT 2010
CommentDid this trail today (July 18 2010) from Lynn Valley to Grouse. Lots of snow in the saddle and continuing past Little Goat (then mud as you descend to Grouse). It is passable, and the trail markers are clear, but if you're going to do it any time soon, bring some kind of traction devices for your boots. I did it in trail runners which were soaked through by the end of the hike. We were 7.5 hours from Lynn parking lot to Grouse tram, including several breaks.
Posted By: Tanissaurus
- Wed Aug 05 17:11:12 EDT 2009
CommentHere is an even better description of the trail.
Total Distance: 16.0 km (one-way) Estimated Time: 7 hours Average Grade: 7.1% Structure: Linear - One Way
Elevation Gain: 1130 m Start Elevation: 190 m Max Elevation: 1320 m
First a caveat: THIS IS A ROUGH, BACKCOUNTRY ROUTE THAT MUST BE TREATED WITH SERIOUS CAUTION: The upper reaches are not free of snow until July and routefinding is difficult in inclement weather. Be fit, fully equipped, and choose a good weather window for this hike. Lynn Creek can be hazardous to cross in high water conditions, and the boulder field can be dangerous when the snow is melting out in spring and summer.....
Route starts at park entrance area. Follow the Cedar Mills Trail to the Debris Chute, where you will join the Headwaters Trail heading toward Norvan Falls. From Norvan Falls area cross the new bridge over Norvan Creek and head north until you reach a signed junction for Hanes Valley
From the signed junction turn left and downhill to cross Lynn Creek, then follow the tapes into the valley beyond. Eventually you'll reach Hanes Valley, where you'll follow cairns and the occasional tape up it's vast boulder field. Remember to head due west and not north toward Crown Mountain and ridge. You will work your way to Crown Pass between the cliffs of Crown on your right, and the cliffs of Goat Mountain on your left. Once here, you will follow markers left and uphill to the trail which will bring you to the Grouse Mountain chalet.
You'll have to plan transportation from the bottom of Grouse back to Lynn Headwaters, or, for a really long day, hike the Baden Powell Trail to return to your starting point.
This is Hike #52 in the current edition of 103 Hikes, some recommended reading for the trip
Route is marked but not patrolled regularly; unsuitable for children.
Posted By: Tanissaurus
- Wed Aug 05 00:35:43 EDT 2009
UpsideGreat description. I did the hike yesterday and would describe it exactly as follows..
CommentI would suggest bringing headlamps just incase you end up running out of daylight like we did (we got to Grouse Resort at about 10:15pm).. Also bring lots of mosquito repellent. I would also suggest bringing some gloves for the areas that have lots of rock and the areas with chains to climb the rocks.
Posted By: annika
- Wed Dec 17 18:34:05 EST 2008
UpsideIt`s a great hike for those that prefer solitude
DownsideCrown Pass was the only trouble spot for me
Commentdid the hike in mid September and didn`t have any problem with snow or mud on the entire trip. I choose to do the trip only on cloud free days. If you cannot see the top of Grouse Mountain because of cloud cover I suggest waiting for a better day
Posted By: trailrunner
- Sun Sep 02 00:40:46 EDT 2007
UpsideBeautiful glacier carved treeless valley. Excitement of tracing up the familiar Lynn Creek from the parking lot for the first time. Old growth trees. Pristine beautiful water of the creeks. Just get to see the hidden part of the Grouse mountain was worth it.
DownsideOccasional rather confusing marking even before Norvan Falls. Several creek washouts after Lynn Lake turn off. Shoe gets slippery with mud on rocks. Trails narrow and grass covers up some roots.
CommentAfter I read some comments from this web site just decided to do it on the whim today. I am a runner, so unknowingly I thought I could run all the way up. I stopped running after the Helipad, but probably could have pushed to the big rock scramble opening. From there, I was rather confused as to where to go. Crawled up all on fours. Some scary crevice between big rocks. After that rocks became smaller but there were very difficult to even walk on as those sharp rocks were quite thick often and moved quite a bit when you try to step on. Went very slow there. On the hind sight, I could have run again after Crown Pass, but didn't as I wasn't sure how long the climb was. Trail was a bit rough still rough till the end of the climb after the Crown Pass(Little Goat Mtn?). Because there was no snow to deal with - it was easy 2:45 to the Gondola from the Lynn headwater parking lot even for the first timer like me. A fast runner can perhaps to within 2hrs.
Posted By: backpacker
- Mon Oct 23 02:01:30 EDT 2006
Downsidethe signs where worn out so it was hard to tell which way to go
Commentquite boring the first few km (it was like a walk in the park) but once you get to the rocks in like the seen from lord of the rings
Posted By: freeridebryce
- Mon Jul 17 15:59:41 EDT 2006
Commentto add to my previous post - Old Mtn Hwy up to Grouse (with various possible alternate routes) is the most mellow approach, short of shuttling cars and riding the skyride. The best part is, you get some fun boot skiing down the entire scree slope on the remaining snowpack while exhausted ascendors look on with envy. Plus, hiking down the valley at a relaxed pace provides more time for taking in scenery. Why do most people do it the other way?
Posted By: vpigeon
- Mon Jul 17 02:05:42 EDT 2006
UpsideA good workout, with lots of variety in scenery and terrain.
DownsideStrenuous hike, muddy, rooty and rocky stretches at western end (Goat/Dam Mountain area).
CommentDid this hike on Sat July 15, 2006. 17 kms from Lynn Headwaters TH to Grouse Mtn Skyride, 1100 m el gain, 750 of which is in a 2-3 km stretch up the rock scree and then the mud, root and rock scramble to Goat Mtn. Even the last stretch to Grouse is, after the difficult hike up to Goat, quite rough.
A good challenge though, very satisfying after completion.
Crossing of Lynn Creek can be dangerous. Wait for late Aug or September, for lower water levels and dryer trees over the creek (very slippery on July 15).
Bring lots of water and food, bug spray, bear spray. Leave message with friends or relatives as to your whereabouts in case you're late getting back.
Posted By: Elly
- Mon Jul 10 20:15:52 EDT 2006
UpsideQuiet once you get past Norvan Falls. Good workout in the second half.
DownsideScree a bit of a grind, snow on other side icy and slippery.
CommentWe laughed at the mentioned difficulty of the trail, until we reached the rocky scree and the slippery snow between Crown Pass & Grouse Alpine Area. Note to selves: make sure you get a good night's rest BEFORE attempting day hikes!!
Posted By: kellymichael
- Sun Oct 23 21:45:50 EDT 2005
UpsideBeautiful views from Crown Pass, early part of the hike is not too bad for a long hike
DownsideHike up scree slope can be very treacherous and hard going compared to the rest of the hike
CommentI hiked through Hanes Valley in late June taking the route from Lynn Valley to Grouse. Because the difficulty of the early part of this route is considerably lower than the hike up the scree slope, I was encouraged to push on. The view from the scree slope was awesome, but the trip up was pretty tough going. Approximate time ~7 hours
Posted By: dynamo
- Wed Jun 16 22:17:18 EDT 2004
UpsideBeautiful BC scenery like none other
DownsideScree can be an arduos scale; snow,loose rock.
CommentI would highly recommend this hike for well equipped folks who like a good challenge.
Posted By: freeridebryce
- Wed Jul 09 17:04:07 EDT 2003
UpsideA challenging loop hike, good views, few hikers, nice terrain
Downsidesome boring parts
CommentI would do this trail in the opposite direction. Start at Mosquito Creek or Mtn Hwy, take the Skyline cut to Grouse (or take the Skyride if you must), go around Dam Mtn, descend the scree slope, follow the Hanes valley, cross Lynn creek, and walk back through Lynn Headwaters to your car. This gets the hard parts out of the way early and ensures that you won't be stuck overnight - the Headwaters trail is a old road that can be followed in the dark if unforeseen circumstances slow your progress. Approximate time - 7 hrs.