Baden Powell - All

Baden Powell - All near Vancouver, BC


This trail was given a rating of 4 out of 5 stars This trail was given a rating of 4 out of 5 stars This trail was given a rating of 4 out of 5 stars This trail was given a rating of 4 out of 5 stars This trail was given a rating of 4 out of 5 stars
48 kms
20hours
extreme
Hiking
Spring, Fall, Summer
Vancouver, BC
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This is it, the whole enchilada. An overview of the complete Baden-Powell trail, as it extends from Deep Cove to Horeshoe Bay.

Sections of it are commonly hiked for pleasure - including "BP to Mosquitoe Creek" and "BP - St. Georges", as well as the return portion of "Brothers Creek", and, further up on Cypress and Black Mountain. All of which you will find on trailpeak. However, very few people will attempt to do the complete Baden-Powell trail, except those foolish enough to enter the knee-knacker race, which is completed by the winner in the range of 6 hours.

We're putting this out there because not many people have a sense for the complete trail however the GPS data is approximate and not for use in the field. As of Aug 2010, we have also been emailed by a trailpeak user indicating that from Horshoe Bay up to Eagle Bluffs there are two major rock slide areas to traverse that are VERY dangerous. User advises that this section should be avoided.

User comments below provide more detail.


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By postman1134Posted By: postman1134  - Thu Sep 19 17:47:36 EDT 2013 This trail was given a rating of 3 out of 5 stars This trail was given a rating of 3 out of 5 stars This trail was given a rating of 3 out of 5 stars This trail was given a rating of 3 out of 5 stars This trail was given a rating of 3 out of 5 stars Upside -Great mix of trail type and fauna to look at because of the constant elevation change.
-It's wonderful to have such a long trail almost uninterupted
Downside -Crazy,crazy busy on sections near Lynn Canyon and Deep Cove Comment Did this last weekend (September 14th) in a day from Horseshoe Bay to Deep Cove. I ran all the sections that I could. However, unless you're a great technical trail runner (which I am not) most of it is not run-able because of the difficult footing (roots and rocks). Took nine hours total, including a lot of stops for pictures and video. Definitely possible to hike the whole thing in a day, but make sure to get an early start.

Video about my day posted here: http://youtu.be/U8eFKyLQ6x8
By HenryBPosted By: HenryB  - Sun Dec 25 01:41:42 EST 2011 Not Rated Upside Mostly well marked and maintained except several sections. Challenging in winter. Short scrambling required. Downside Moderate except rock section to horseshoe bay. Comment Just finished Horseshoe Bay to Cypress today, group of five. It was an epic hike in heavy rain with snowy moments making it a white Christmas eve. Very happy as its my first time on that section. I'm planning to do the second section from cypress to grouse next week. 6 hours to from Westport rd parking lot to Cypress parking lot. I parked my car at cranley drive and took a short hike to the trailhead after underpass. Pretty mild from trailhead to Whyte Lake and getting stiff as soon as you see the first rocky section. Rocky sections were stable but slippery covered with thin ice - not much snow yet. I lost singage near the rock slide area, which made Eagle Bluff a bit dangerous. Found BP sign on top of it and smooth sailing to Black Mountain and down to Cypress bowl. Absolutely no view during the hike but it's always great hiking northshore rain forest. Can't wait the day i finish entire BP a day.
By shorerapperPosted By: shorerapper  - Mon Sep 06 16:49:49 EDT 2010 Not Rated Upside Well marked. I have now linked the whole BP Trail together. It took 14 trips! Downside Some rock climbing and sharp drop-offs, definitely the toughest part of the entire BP trail. Comment Geraboldi's notes regarding the rockslides are, in my opinion, somewhat dramatic. If you are the type that worries about earthquakes and the sun burning out at any given time then don't alarm yourself taking this trail. Those rocks have been settled there for decades or longer as witnessed by the moss growing on them. Having said that, there are parts of this trail that were built by Boyscouts on Benzedrine; steep and precipitous.
As for the trailhead, visit http://www.th.gov.bc.ca/seatosky/Detailed_Design/West_Vancouver/WVDD_Trails.pdf for choices. The Westport Road parking lot worked for me.
By geraboldiPosted By: geraboldi  - Tue Aug 24 20:32:55 EDT 2010 This trail was given a rating of 1 out of 5 stars This trail was given a rating of 1 out of 5 stars This trail was given a rating of 1 out of 5 stars This trail was given a rating of 1 out of 5 stars This trail was given a rating of 1 out of 5 stars Upside Great views at Eagle Bluff Downside The trail is not well marked at the highway just after the under pass. The old trail is right in front of you once you cross under the underpass, while the sign is not in the right place to see and then it points away from the mountain, which does not seem to make sense and would lead many people to take the trail right in front. Comment The trail goes over two rock slides and this is a very dangerous situation. With gravity and the weight of the hikers both pushing downwards on the slide it could come down at any time on top of whoever is the unlucky one. To me this is not an acceptable risk for anyone to take and the trail should either be altered at those points or taken down completely. ...Once I got to Eagle Bluffs I decided not to risk being the unlucky one and returned via Cypress instead. It was a 4 and 1/2 hour hike down from Eagel Bluffs to 25 and Marine, after the grueling 2 and 1/2 hour hike up and 1/2 hour stay there. The organizers of this hike could have saved me a lot of pain, and everyone else a lot of grief by marking a safe route for all instead
By jesseiscanadianPosted By: jesseiscanadian  - Sun Aug 01 20:21:20 EDT 2010 This trail was given a rating of 5 out of 5 stars This trail was given a rating of 5 out of 5 stars This trail was given a rating of 5 out of 5 stars This trail was given a rating of 5 out of 5 stars This trail was given a rating of 5 out of 5 stars Upside -Challenging
-Terrain varies quite a bit
-lots of places to get water, didn't need to use filters or tabs
Downside -Hard to find good spots to camp for the night
-lots of walking on sidewalks and through neighbor hoods. The walk from the dam to the grouse grind entrance is horrible after a 25km day.
Comment Absolutely thrilled that i finally got this under my belt, kinda too bad gps batteries died at lynn canyon bridge. The weather was excellent, besides some thunder just after setting up the tent that had us racing to get the fly on. We will probably make this a annual hike now!
By madwithpower62Posted By: madwithpower62  - Tue Jan 19 01:13:05 EST 2010 Not Rated Comment What SamR says is my concern,too. I see surveyor's pins and flags in at least 3 points right beside the BP Trail including Dempsey and Mountain Highway areas. Save the BP!!
By RamboPosted By: Rambo  - Sat Nov 14 14:51:50 EST 2009 This trail was given a rating of 4 out of 5 stars This trail was given a rating of 4 out of 5 stars This trail was given a rating of 4 out of 5 stars This trail was given a rating of 4 out of 5 stars This trail was given a rating of 4 out of 5 stars Upside Challenging Downside Black Mountain section is a little mental Comment Just did the Horseshoe bay to Black Mountain section yesterday (Nov. Friday the 13th 2009). Sky was cloudy but mostly clear. I took the Whyte Lake Trail and it was very nice, very green and wet. Merged on Baden Powell Trail and took the alternate route to the summit. This section was crazy, took me more than two hours to go uphill and what started as 1 cm of snow, became 2 feet of snow on top.

The way down is really hard and i could even say dangerous if you are not careful. The snow was covering the moss and dirt which was sliding. Only experienced hikers should try this part going down Black Mountain to Horseshoe Bay. Going uphill ain't that bad.

Horseshoe Bay to Black Mountain and back, 6 hours.
By chameleon4444Posted By: chameleon4444  - Sat Sep 19 18:04:01 EDT 2009 Not Rated Upside Great hike, good exercise as it's a lot of elevation Downside Just wet in warmish weather and snow Comment Tamidog, the same thing happened to my brother and me, got to the top and followed the flags. It turned out those were for the cross country skiiers or something. It looped up back around to the bottom of Cypress without enought time left to go back up and keep going. Definitely take a compass.
By TAMIDOGGPosted By: TAMIDOGG  - Thu Jun 11 18:35:18 EDT 2009 Not Rated Comment I started at horseshoe bay and got lost in Cypress since I could not find anymore trail markers. maybe the snow ate it.

So advice to anyone go in August and get a GPS .....it toke us over 9 hours by the time we left Cypress..haha
By SamRPosted By: SamR  - Wed Aug 20 17:17:45 EDT 2008 This trail was given a rating of 5 out of 5 stars This trail was given a rating of 5 out of 5 stars This trail was given a rating of 5 out of 5 stars This trail was given a rating of 5 out of 5 stars This trail was given a rating of 5 out of 5 stars Upside Travelliing West to East during the Knee Knacker it is a wonderful sight to emerge from the forest on Black Mountain and turn to see Georgia strait and the islands laid out before you. Downside The trail is long and gruelling (doing it in one go - as on the Knee Knacker) and it sure isa welcome sight to exit the trail at the end and see Panaorma Park in Deep Cove. Comment Having done the Knee Knacker about a dozen times I feel I know every rock and root of the Baden Powell - so I am probably a bit biased. One thing that deos concern me is the signs of human development encroaching into the whole North Shore area. Most of it is small scale but I think we should all be on our guard to make sure that this fabulous jewel of a wonderful (near) wilderness area on the doorstep of such a large city as Vancouver is not chipped away.
By iDodgimusPosted By: iDodgimus  - Thu Jul 31 19:16:58 EDT 2008 Not Rated Question thinking of doing this one as an overnighter... any hints on good spots to camp?
thanks :)

ANSWERS are in this forum:  camping?
By chameleon4444Posted By: chameleon4444  - Thu Mar 20 03:36:20 EDT 2008 This trail was given a rating of 4 out of 5 stars This trail was given a rating of 4 out of 5 stars This trail was given a rating of 4 out of 5 stars This trail was given a rating of 4 out of 5 stars This trail was given a rating of 4 out of 5 stars Upside The trail was very well kept up
Most of it is well away from the sounds of the city - a great day of releif!
Downside I actually found trail diversity was a downside for my step brother and me. If you're out there to do it in one day we spent a lot of time trying to figure out which was the route to take so that we stayed on the correct BP trail. Comment My step-brother and I did this yesterday (March 18th) and started at 0720. We had to get a taxi up to Deep Cove as a bus would have taken way too long. The trail head is on the left side and is joined with a driveway along the Panorma drive right after an S curve. The Eastern part of the hike to Capillano was dry with no snow, but after that we battled the snow all the way.
We actually never made it right through to Horseshoe bay. This is a warning to anyone new to the trail also wanting to do it early in the year. We ended up at the top of Black mtn, we could see the bay bellow, it was simply one last long descent. We started off once again following the orange stakes that we had followed up from the bottom of Cypress. But we soon found ourselves going left all the way back to the stakes we had past half an hour before. The BP trail isn't marked after the top of Black Mountain, or at least if it is, the markers must be low on the tress and covered with snow.
So lesson learned, if you plan to do it in one day take a compass in case you have to navigate at night. And plan on 12 hours. Without snow, by the time we made it to horseshoe bay it would have taken 12 hours with one half hour break.
It's a great trail in all, but I would say it would have been better with more familiarity of the area.
By TeresaPPosted By: TeresaP  - Tue Aug 08 16:33:58 EDT 2006 This trail was given a rating of 4 out of 5 stars This trail was given a rating of 4 out of 5 stars This trail was given a rating of 4 out of 5 stars This trail was given a rating of 4 out of 5 stars This trail was given a rating of 4 out of 5 stars Upside Great for a sunny day, even cloudy. Not sure how it would be in the rain. Rain gear a must!! A few camping spots at the Lions. The grey jays (Wiskey Jacks) are neat to watch. Downside Backpack is the only way in and out. It's hard on the ol' knees but worth it at the end.
Comment Just remember to take yer time and don't forget bug juice!
By ChrisWPosted By: ChrisW  - Tue Mar 30 02:30:51 EST 2004 This trail was given a rating of 3 out of 5 stars This trail was given a rating of 3 out of 5 stars This trail was given a rating of 3 out of 5 stars This trail was given a rating of 3 out of 5 stars This trail was given a rating of 3 out of 5 stars Comment I'd like to know if there are any designated camping spots. And if not, where are good spots to throw a tent for a night?
By westcoast_pathfinderPosted By: westcoast_pathfinder  - Wed Aug 20 03:12:44 EDT 2003 This trail was given a rating of 4 out of 5 stars This trail was given a rating of 4 out of 5 stars This trail was given a rating of 4 out of 5 stars This trail was given a rating of 4 out of 5 stars This trail was given a rating of 4 out of 5 stars Upside Trail diversity is great! Wonderful views at Eagle Bluffs - a nice reward after the boulder climb from Eagle Ridge trail head. Pikas in the boulder field! Hollyburn section had a lot of bear "sign", but also grouse and other fauna. Stops at Cypress, Grouse and Lynn provided refreshments to top up water bottles with. From Seymour to Deep Cove is an easy hike, with a gorgeous viewpoint of Indian Arm! Downside It's a long day for a "non Knee Knacker". Very steep section between Eagle Bluffs and the Eagle Ridge trail head ... I preferred to start at that end instead of attempting to go down such a steep slope with end-of-day tired legs. Some areas had a lot of bear sign. Comment Apparently the land by both trailheads may be earmarked for development - it would be a shame to lose this trail.
By bdaggPosted By: bdagg  - Wed Jan 09 00:51:48 EST 2002 Not Rated Comment BP Length
BP Trail Length, according to the Knee Knacker Web site (www.kneenacker.com) is approx. 48.5 km.

Also, Knee Knacker winners complete the entire course in under 5 hours (not 6, as indicated). Record is around 4:45


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